in san francisco, former prosecutor now defense attorney michael cardoza and bernie grimm and ted williams. bernie, how in the world did this thing not get prosecuted earlier. when you heard the discussion about the coroner. frankly i thought the pathologist would have spoken up. >> very suspicious, we know cardoza and what position he's going to take. the defense's position, the reason nobody looks at this, this is a man of the cloth, he comes to the game, you know, cloaked in character, cloaked in the presumption of innocent unlike these folks perhaps in steubenville. at any rate, that's what he comes to the game with. i love michael, but no one would second guess this. you're right, now this is pretty late and there's evidence that probably has dissipated, the body in one case was cremated, no direct evidence against the guy, but the clincher for me, says 55 miles per hour and later when they do an accident reconstruction,s' going 25. how does she die of those injuries at 25 miles per hour. >> greta: he's extraordinarily lucky that the two homicides are being tried separately and i assu